Ever since Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s daughter Lili Mountbatten-Windsor was born in June 2021, the couple has largely kept her out of the public eye, only sharing one photo taken at her first birthday party. But on the newest episode of Archetypes, Meghan talked more about her experiences as a mom to Lili and son Archie.
“Lili just started walking. She’s a year and a couple of months old and Archie’s just over three years old,” Meghan said on the eighth episode of her Spotify podcast. “Oh I’m in the thick of it. Toddling.”
In a conversation with actor Pamela Adlon, she also shared a few details about hectic mornings in the Sussex household. “The morning rush—I’m sure it’ll only get more chaotic as they get older,” she said. “For me, it’s both monitors on for the kids to hear them. I’m always up with Lili, to get her downstairs. Then a half hour later, Archie’s up. I start doing his lunchbox right
before he’s up, while I have her getting her a little nibble. My husband’s helping me get him downstairs. I make breakfast for all three of them. It’s very important to me. I love doing it.”
Adlon said she hoped Meghan was getting help with the kids, and Meghan responded, “Oh my husband, oh, he’s great.”
This episode of Archetypes, called “Good Wife/ Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom” tackled the concept of the public pressure over motherhood. In the episode, she also spoke with Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, the wife of Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who Meghan sees as a source of advice.
“She used to send me these little meditations during my pregnancies, and voice notes, just these moments of encouragement,” Meghan said. “And I’ve gone to her over the years for advice. She knows what it feels like to be a mom, and a partner, and specifically a mom and a partner in the public eye—and also how crushing the guilt of expectations can become.”
Meghan also described a visit that Trudeau made to California this summer. “We swam, we drank wine, we splashed in the water,” she said. “This wasn’t our day of being the wives and moms all perfectly coiffed with updos and pearls and demure smiles. This was the other version of us. Both with wild curly hair and swimsuits and loose linen and huge belly laughs. Big cuddles with our little ones and quiet whispers of girl talk on the terrace.”
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